From: klier@cobra.uni.edu Newsgroups: rec.gardens Subject: Re: What is a Ha-ha? Date: 4 Apr 95 14:47:12 -0600 I discovered ha-has at a Capability Brown-designed garden in England.... I think I discovered the source of the name, too... Picture three jetlagged botanists in their first encounter with a Great British Landscape Garden. Rushing around taking pictures, not paying a whole lot of attention to many things they might have otherwise noticed. Interesting garden... kinda formal near the house, vast vistas blending into far away grazing lands. (Question that did not occur to me at the time: How do you keep the cows out of the garden without a fence?) Well, I discovered how you kept the cows out without a fence: you dig an irregular, deep ditch around the garden. 90o wall closest to the house, other bank more sloped, so it looks like a meandering stream. Botanists who are paying more attention to new (to them) genera of conifers in their camera viewfinders have been known to walk backwards off that 90o wall, and land on their dignity in the bottom of the ditch. Other botanists, and supposed friends, collapse making "hahahaha" noises.... (and Linda knew about Capability Brown and ha-has and didn't warn me, the fink!)_ Anyhow, a landscaped ditch that serves as a barrier to livestock is a ha-ha. Kay Klier klier@cobra.uni.edu === From: matt@ua.nsw.ac.uk (Matt Brunton) Newsgroups: rec.gardens Subject: Re: What is a Ha-ha? Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 09:36:50 I understood a 'ha-ha' to be a form of ditch. It was often used in stately homes so as not to spoil a view (which a hedge or fence would do) Apologies for the ASCII graphics.... <--- view | HOUSE | | | ----------------\ |---------------------------------- --\ | --\ | --| Matt