Scandinavian Indie Digest Wed Jan 17, 1996 Volume 3 : Issue 05 There are 36 messages totalling 1086 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Kittenish 1 2. weird stories>Teenage FC 3. Yvonne / New Order 4. Petrol (5) 5. Popsicle, 3rd of Feb 6. namedropping / weird stories (2) 7. Slush Puppies 8. FWD: Jazz Festival 9. Frank Black (Non-Scan) (3) 10. Pixies influences 11. Finnish Indie Tape (3) 12. Super 13. Blow-Up III 14. Yvonne - Drifter (2) 15. FWD: new concept for music marketing 16. Gig Stories 17. SI's Selected News [15-Jan-96] 18. Tambourine Compilation. 19. Cardigans (2) 20. Red Sleeping Beauty 21. German indie page 22. Frank Black Promotion 23. Sin's Selected News [16-Jan-96] 24. Posting Gig Info to the List 25. New List: Slowdive & Mojave 3 Mailing List --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 17:40:35 +0100 From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: Re: Kittenish 1 >> There's supposed to be stuff from Yvonne on #1 as well, but I wouldn't >> shell out full price just for one track. > >It's definitely worth it, if you want to hear Yvonne play independent >manchester-style pop, that is. I think that track, "Drifter", is great Hmm, but isn't Drifter available elsewhere? Or is that a different version??? Jan Sundstrom ----------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 17:46:56 +0100 From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: Re: weird stories>Teenage FC >One "weird" thing was when Mary Beats Jane played in Kalmar about >two years ago. The place they played at was so small that the audience >(we) were about 30 centimeters from the band on the stage that was >about 30 centimeters higher than the floor in front of it. This made >it kinda easy to interact with the band, so I ended up dancing with >the singer while he was singing and occasionally (sp?) play on one >of the guys on guitar's strings. I can say that I wasn't sober that >night. :-) ...which makes me think of the _brilliant_ gig w/ Teenage Fanclub at Gino back in june 95. The last song was Beatles' "Rain", and it ended in a jam where all instruments were taken over by the audience! And it actually sounded really good. TFC brought out all guitars, tambourines, maraccases etc, etc they could find and handed it over to guys who jumped up on stage. Marvellous! Finaly the guys realized that TFC had gone offstage, and they stood there and didn't know how it all should end. The jam countinued fow some more minutes, then TFC came back and ended. It was like a great aura of happiness around the whole thing, one of the best gigs i've ever been to. Jan Sundstrom ---------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 21:00:07 +0200 (EET) From: trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti) Subject: Re: Yvonne / New Order According to chief@lysator.liu.se: * Nope, the track is indeed "Drifter". The one you're thinking of is * the Souls track on the Life Is a Joke compilation CD, which wasn't * "Boring In a Proper Way" but a cover of New Order's "5-8-6". Man, you're right! Sorry about the disinfo - I mixed up two of those tapes you sent me a while back :) I guess I should check my 'facts' every now and then, but then again, I never considered myself an authority on Swedish indie... :) Kimmo ------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 20:41:58 +0100 From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: Petrol >They just got signed by Telegram/Warner and tonight (friday) there's a big >>showcase in Vasteras (Sweden) with Petrol live on stage,... Yeah, as promised a small review of the show: Petrol, fronted by two gorgeous girls, with three studio musicians, rocked in Vasteras yesterday. Jenny and Camilla, on song and acoustic guitar, with their looks they could well be the Ace Of Base of indie (in a positive way, don't laugh!). They have light voices, somewhere between Lush and Cardigans, but the guitars were much harder, distorsion and stuff. I also liked the choruses, which are like chewinggum in your head. Produced in the right way, they can become the next big thing. Deal with Telegram/Warner, first single out in May. Remember where you read it first. ;) Jan Sundstrom ------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 21:48:24 +0100 (MET) From: Petter Tiilikainen Subject: Popsicle, 3rd of Feb Just for the sake of information, Popsicle are playing Karhuset in Lulea at the 3rd of February. Petter ---------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 22:15:04 +0100 (MET) From: Petter Tiilikainen Subject: Re: namedropping / weird stories According to chief@lysator.liu.se: > One "weird" thing was when Mary Beats Jane played in Kalmar about > two years ago. The place they played at was so small that the audience > (we) were about 30 centimeters from the band on the stage that was > about 30 centimeters higher than the floor in front of it. This made This reminds me of a show that happened at more than 3 years ago, on the 2nd of October. Heffaklump (pre-Randy), Superdong (Pre-Fireside,Breach) and the Bear Quartet played in "Badhusets festivitets sal". The stage was about 30 cm, and the roof was perhaps 30 cm above the heads of those who stood on the stage. Matti Alkberg was wearing a baker's hat and was looking generally weird. Uhmm yeah since it was my 18th birthday, and had been consuming larger amounts of whiskey, I ruined a song for Superdong by shouting in the mic.. but they weren't too mad at me tho. Oh yeah there were some other band playing too, but I can't remember their name and there's no "offspring" from that one existing today. Petter ------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 00:37:26 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Slush Puppies I just have to write something about _Slush Puppies_, who played here at Herrgar'n two days ago (an interview is coming up). I had never heard them before, but I read that they did sound somewhat like Dinosaur Jr. And they did. :-) _Really_. The vocals are just as whining and scraping as one would expect from J. Mascis himself, and the music.. well, it's sounds a bit similar to Dino, but there are more guitars during choruses. Not as sprawling as Dino. They're definitely good though. If you like Dino, Slush Puppies are not to be missed. They have released one EP called "Cosmic Trip" on the Just 4 Fun label, which I think is good even though the band says the only track on it they can stand these days is the first one (it was released April 95) but recorded in 1994, so they feel it's not representative for their sound nowadays. The live performance didn't leave me asking for anything more. That is to say, they kicked. //Erik --------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 00:36:54 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: FWD: Jazz Festival Forwarded mail: * Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 00:26:51 -0800 * From: jazzdata@ix.netcom.com (Jan Byrczek ) * Subject: Jazz Festivals International Directory 1996 Dear Jazz Festival Organizer, Dear Jazz Associate; We are now up-dating a 1996 edition of the JAZZ WORLD DATABASE including JAZZ FESTIVAL & EVENTS DIRCTORY and JAZZ ON INTERNET 1996 DIRECTORY. 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Byrczek - Publisher Jazz World Database PO Box 777, Times Square Station New York, NY 10108-0777, USA Phone: 212/581 7188 Fax: 212/581 7370 e-mail: jazzdata@ix.netcom.com ------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 00:38:25 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Frank Black (Non-Scan) On Fri, 13 Jan 1995, John Boqvist wrote: > Two of my (unnamed, but very indie-initiated) friends attended the > Nojesguiden Awards bash at Berns the other nigth. > Suddenly a fat bloke with an acoustic guitar appeared and played > some songs, just like *any* half shite acoustic guitar player. Funny that. It seems like Frank Black is really digging his own grave, or rather, the record company is. Read in Expressen Fredag about the company's promotion stunt for Mr. Black, which made them (the Fredag crew) cancel their interview: Three guys dressed in black wearing sunglasses entered their editorial room, slams a tape recorder on the floor, they press play, and start to dance. Right there in front of their desks. The music is Frank Black's latest single. I'm not sure, but I would have thought it was funny, though they do have a point when saying that they'd like to decide if the music is good or not themselves, without this kind of promotion stunts. //Erik --------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 00:38:05 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Pixies influences On Fri, 12 Jan 1996, Per L}ngstr|m wrote: > why is just about every swedish "indie-pop" band so totally into the > pixies? yes, they (the pixies) were good and all, but this far too > obvious pixies influence that guitar-based pop-bands in this country are > showing is getting a bit annoying (if not simply ridiculus), i find. I agree with you somewhat. That is, on that there are a lot of swedish bands with music references to the Pixies. Blake Carringtons, who played here two days ago for example. But I really don't find that to be a bad thing. Always. :-) //Erik --------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 00:37:53 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Finnish Indie Tape On Fri, 12 Jan 1996, trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti) write: > I'll also try to 'design' an inlay card with some '''''artwork''''' on > it (heh). Okay! I'd appreciate if you'd post the artwork somewhere, and maybe we could continue with the other tapes with similar artwork to make some sort of series out of the whole thing? //Erik ----------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 00:37:11 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Petrol On Fri, 12 Jan 1996, d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) wrote: > Has anyone checked out the new Vasteras band Petrol? Two babes singing, and > a backing studio band consisting of three guys. Review of the gig comes > tomorrow. I have heard the name, but I can't remember where.. I know I read it somewhere. Anyway, please post a review! > They just got signed by Telegram/Warner and tonight (friday) there's a big > showcase in Vasteras (Sweden) with Petrol live on stage, and lots of record > company hot shots, journos etc coming in there from Stockholm (me too ;) Heh, it's a pretty slim chance that I would have gone there, as I read the message a bit too late. This makes me wonder, both Marten and Jan (Melony and Petrol) posted gigs that would happen the very same day recently. Did you guys know of these gigs a long time before you posted them, or is the music business really speeding these days? (like the 0-dayz wArrreZz y'know :-), we're now looking at 0-dayz gIgZz... :-)). It makes it kinda impossible to plan to see a band. :-/ //Erik --------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 00:37:39 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Super Got some email from Minna from the Finnish band _Super_ the other day, of which we have heard a lot about on this list from Kimmo and Sami (if I'm not mistaken) earlier. She told me they were interested in a tour of Sweden, probably together with _Pansies_, but need to get in touch with people that can help them to book some dates. I suggested she could write the mailing list directly, as I feel there are enough people on the list with contacts all over the country, these days. Or am I wrong? So hopefully we all can help the band, and at the same time get to see them live in the near future? I've passed on addresses and information for the Linkoping venues (Skylten & Herrgar'n) as well as to Studion in Stockholm and information on festivals like Hultsfred and Trastocks- festivalen (it is Jocke at West Side one should contact for the latter right?). She also said they were interested in getting signed to a Swedish label, which of course would be really interesting. :-) I recommended West Side but I don't know if Jocke still has a "stop" signing new bands? Any other labels that might be interested? Well, we'll see if she posts to the list. If not, I'll forward the info I get. //Erik ---------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 00:36:33 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Blow-Up III Just a small note that I got on another music mailing list: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ * Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 22:02:59 -0500 * From: zinha@idirect.com * Subject: Blow-up III! Greetings Torontonians & surrounding areas. It's happening again. Blow-up is back and happening January 27th at the Gallery Loft Pub, 291 Dundas Street (at McCaul). The cost is $5 at the door. To freshen your memory: BLOW-UP a night of UK indie/ Motown/60's & Nothern Soul sounds of oasis,the jam,supergrass,james brown the la's,elastica,cast,heavy stereo,stereolab stranglers,stone roses,verve,the who,blur supremes,byrds,adorable,specials,cardigans... to be on an e-mailing list for blow-up so you can be informed of the next event, send a message to Tim at republic@interlog.com Republic Records http://www.interlog.com/~republic cheers Teresinha -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I was just thinking under what "label" Cardigans are. "Northern Soul"? It's fun to see them getting that kind of attention in Canada as well though! //Erik --------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 11:54:58 +0100 From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: Re: Petrol >Heh, it's a pretty slim chance that I would have gone there, as I read >the message a bit too late. This makes me wonder, both Marten and Jan >(Melony and Petrol) posted gigs that would happen the very same day >recently. Did you guys know of these gigs a long time before you posted >them, or is the music business really speeding these days? (like the 0-dayz >wArrreZz y'know :-), we're now looking at 0-dayz gIgZz... :-)). It makes >it kinda impossible to plan to see a band. :-/ Umm, sorry. Well i knew about it two weeks in advance, but i forgot to post it up. I'll write "SCAN-INDIE" on my forehead with big black letters, and walk around with that so i won't do it again. ;) Jan Sundstrom ------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 11:59:05 +0100 From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: Re: Frank Black (Non-Scan) >Three guys dressed in black wearing sunglasses entered their editorial >room, slams a tape recorder on the floor, they press play, and start to >dance. Right there in front of their desks. The music is Frank Black's >latest single. WHAT!??? I mean, at Expressen? Man, when i used to work there, things like that never happened. The editorial floor is sacred. Who the heck were they? Some fools that the record company had hired? Or maybe the company officials themselves? Jan Sundstrom -------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 07:14:40 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Yvonne - Drifter On Sat, 13 Jan 1996, d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) wrote: >> It's definitely worth it, if you want to hear Yvonne play independent >> manchester-style pop, that is. I think that track, "Drifter", is great > > Hmm, but isn't Drifter available elsewhere? Or is that a different version??? Yes, on one of their demo tapes, but nowhere else that I know of. Unless it's included on their single, but I doubt that. Anyone know for sure? //Erik --------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 07:14:12 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: FWD: new concept for music marketing Got some mail in my mailbox yesterday, and I thought I would forward it to the list. Please note that I'm only doing this because I thought it might be interesting to people on the list. It may be a hoax, and then again it may not. 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Contact us at: uma@sport2.uibk.ac.at UMA uma@sport2.uibk.ac.at --------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 07:15:35 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Petrol On Sat, 13 Jan 1996, d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) wrote: > Jenny and Camilla, on song and acoustic guitar, with their looks they could > well be the Ace Of Base of indie (in a positive way, don't laugh!). Ha ha! :-) I didn't quite get the connection there though. "the Ace Of Base of indie" because of their looks? > They have light voices, somewhere between Lush and Cardigans, but the > guitars were much harder, distorsion and stuff. I also liked the choruses, > which are like chewinggum in your head. Produced in the right way, they can > become the next big thing. _That_ sounds interesting! Do you know if they're going to play somewhere else in the near future? > Remember where you read it first. ;) Sure will. :) //Erik ----------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 07:16:18 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Gig Stories On Sat, 13 Jan 1996, Petter Tiilikainen wrote: > This reminds me of a show that happened at more than 3 years ago, [snip] Which reminds me of one time when I was interviewing a band recently and five cops entered the room. Four through the door, and one from the fire escape exit door. They had been told there were drugs on the premesis (sp?) and wanted to search the place. But of course they didn't find any drugs but the number of beer bottles that covered the table. They didn't seem to take the whole thing very seriously though. When they had left, the band had _numerous_ stories to tell. :-) //Erik --------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 07:16:38 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: SI's Selected News [15-Jan-96] Scandianvian Indie's Selected News [15-Jan-96] Aquadays - will be included on a compilation CD released by Dorian Records from Halmstad with the song "Spacious" which is a new one from the band. The rest of the compilation CD is filled with songs from 20 promising bands on the label. Aquadays will also release a CD themselves with their 7 best songs on frontman Martin Aamot's own label Daystar Records in the near future. Beat Butchers - the more Punk-ish independent record label revealed a whole load of upcoming release dates. * Tuk Tuk Rally will release their (not yet named) compilation CD on March 3rd. * The date for The Solar Lodge's CD "Fast Money Music" has moved forward to April 7th. * Brandgul will release their (not yet named) Mini-CD on April 7th as well. All of these will have midprice, which means low prices. Forthcoming releases includes a CD from K|ttgrottorna and a Mini-CD from ]ka Bil, both with release dates in August. Popundret - on the A West Side Fabrication label, has released a single called "Friendship Love" (WeCD 112). //Erik --------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 10:42:26 +0100 (MET) From: Nicolas Moch Subject: Tambourine Compilation. Hello all, First, I really would like to get a hold of this compilation. Does anyone know where I can find it ? Second, I would like to add my own little opinion to the Cardigans thread. Well, I think that their first album is better. Even if 'Life' is more of a whole, Emmerdale has definitely more hits in it and is less 'joking'. I have also heard the new version of Rise & Shine (single to be released soon in Europe) and I prefer the old one, but that's typical... Regards, Nicolas MOCH ----------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 15:29:20 +0100 From: Marten.Sahlen@eua.ericsson.se (Marten Sahlen) Subject: Re: namedropping / weird stories chief@lysator.liu.se wrote: > Heh heh. Well, that message made me think of weird things that one has > done / happened over the years when it comes to gigs and bands. Could > be fun if we'd post such stories, don't you think? My friends and I went to see Wannadies during the Stockholm Water Festival last summer. A couple of my friends had seen Atomic Swing the day before and were talking pretty loudly about how lame AS were. Two girls who stood right in front of us gave us strange looks at this moment. We didn't think much about it, until later when we noticed that the guy who was in company with these girls was actually Niklas Frisk (who obviously must have heard everything). Curtains down! ------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 16:32:02 +0200 (EET) From: trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti) Subject: Re: Finnish Indie Tape According to chief@lysator.liu.se: * On Fri, 12 Jan 1996, trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti) write: * * > I'll also try to 'design' an inlay card with some '''''artwork''''' on * > it (heh). * * Okay! I'd appreciate if you'd post the artwork somewhere, and maybe we * could continue with the other tapes with similar artwork to make some * sort of series out of the whole thing? Well, I can post the inlay card somewhere, or make it available on WWW, but I don't know if anybody will want to continue with that kind of design, as it will be a sort of a messy low-fi job anyway (that's what you get 'designing' yer stuff on Macrosoft Word...wotta powerful tool! :) Besides, I think the first chain tape is already past that stage (the Swedish Industrial one), so maybe we can't get a uniform design concept going on. Well, we'll see what happens. BTW, you can still sign up to the tape chain!! Kimmo ------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 16:27:32 +0200 (EET) From: trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti) Subject: Re: Cardigans According to Nicolas Moch: * have also heard the new version of Rise & Shine (single to be released * soon in Europe) and I prefer the old one, but that's typical... What? Do you mean that they have re-recorded the song?? Seems a bit strange to me, as there was nothing wrong with the original version, quite the contrary! Kimmo ---------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 16:35:39 +0200 (EET) From: trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti) Subject: Re: Red Sleeping Beauty Erik typed: * And Sami Rouhento wrote: * * > He hee, now that's an understatement if I ever saw one. Red Sleeping * > Beauty are the wimpiest band out of Sweden bar none. Their wimpiness * > makes my mind reel with delight. * * Uh-oh. Maybe I won't check them out after all. I'm not at all impressed * by the whole wimpy pop scene. Blur, Pulp, ... ugh. Well, I wouldn't say RSB are wimpy in that way, instead (IMO of course) they are wimply in a 'anti-rock, anti-aggressive' way. Sort of beautiful, gentle, sensitive kind of thingy, you know... I'm sure somebody out there can give a better description than my restricted vocabulary allows... Give it a listen in the shop at least! Kimmo ---------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 16:38:41 +0200 (EET) From: trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti) Subject: Frank Black (Non-Scan) According to John Boqvist: * Punchline : don't play songs acoustic if they're not meant to be * played acoustic.... Well, for what it is worth, I've got a live tape of FB playing Pixies songs live, and it's quite incredible. But I understand that playing his new songs (acoustic or electric) will result in nothing but a truckload of boring crap (apologies to Mr. Black's fans). Kimmo 'I used to be a Pixies fan you know' ---------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 16:01:02 +0100 From: Nicolas Moch Subject: Re: Cardigans Kimmo Saaskilahti wrote: > According to Nicolas Moch: > > * have also heard the new version of Rise & Shine (single to be released > * soon in Europe) and I prefer the old one, but that's typical... > > What? Do you mean that they have re-recorded the song?? Seems a bit > strange to me, as there was nothing wrong with the original version, > quite the contrary! Well, this version is actually on the 'European' version of Life. (the one that is a compilation of Emmerdale and the original Life). I guess they have changed it a little bit. the orchestration is different. If you want, I can put some of it on their home page(ask me...). I have also the video (some of you have seen it). It is recorded in Japan. I could not manage putting it on the web though (helping hand?). I prefer the first version though... -------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 16:29:44 +0100 From: Marten.Sahlen@eua.ericsson.se (Marten Sahlen) Subject: Re: Finnish Indie Tape trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti) wrote: > Besides, I think the first chain tape is already past that stage (the > Swedish Industrial one), so maybe we can't get a uniform design > concept going on. Yes, this tape is on the way now. If I may say so myself the design of that inlay card is really neat. I scanned a picture from a cemetary, which I then imported into an Island Draw document (postscript). It perfecly reflects the mood of the music on the tape, and it looks great. -------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 17:28:32 +0100 From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: Re: Yvonne - Drifter >>> It's definitely worth it, if you want to hear Yvonne play independent >>> manchester-style pop, that is. I think that track, "Drifter", is great >> >> Hmm, but isn't Drifter available elsewhere? Or is that a different version??? > >Yes, on one of their demo tapes, but nowhere else that I know of. Unless it's >included on their single, but I doubt that. Anyone know for sure? Yeah, that's what i meant. Isn't that 2nd single called Drifter? the white one, with them sitting in chairs on the front? Jan Sundstrom ---------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 17:38:01 +0100 From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: Re: Petrol >> Jenny and Camilla, on song and acoustic guitar, with their looks they could >> well be the Ace Of Base of indie (in a positive way, don't laugh!). > >Ha ha! :-) I didn't quite get the connection there though. "the Ace Of Base >of indie" because of their looks? Hey, I said _don't laugh_! ;) Yeah, because of their looks, man. You'd know what i mean if you saw them. >_That_ sounds interesting! Do you know if they're going to play somewhere >else in the near future? Hmm. Nothing booked for the moment, but i think Warner has a spring showcase every year for their new acts, for "in" people and VIPs. I'd say they would show up there?! I was at this wansh at Gino last year, and, OK i didn't go there for the music, but i sure as hell got drunk on all the free beer that was flooding the place. Jan Sundstrom ----------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 19:26:56 +0100 From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: German indie page Found this very slick page w/ loads of tourdates, also links to many booking agents in germany, labels etc etc. The tourdates could be of interest, some also list Swedish/Danish/ other European dates. Right now, i just saw Cardigans will come to Germany in February. So here's the URL: http://planetsound.is-bremen.de/tourdate/ Chief, take a look and maybe you can add a link from Scan-Indie?! Jan Sundstrom ---------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 11:28:24 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Frank Black Promotion On Sun, 14 Jan 1996, d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) wrote: > WHAT!??? I mean, at Expressen? Man, when i used to work there, things like > that never happened. The editorial floor is sacred. Who the heck were they? > Some fools that the record company had hired? Or maybe the company > officials themselves? It said the record company had hired the guys to promote Black's single. Would have been even funnier if it had been company officials - I guess that would have created a better atmosphere really. Oh well. //Erik -------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 11:29:29 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Sin's Selected News [16-Jan-96] Scandinavian Indie's Selected News [16-Jan-96] Grammisgalan - the Grammy awards in Sweden will be held at the China Theater in Stockholm on February 19th, 1996. It will be broadcasted on Swedish TV4 hosted by Lasse Anrell. Here are some interesting categories/nominations: Producer: Text writer: Composer: Michael Illbert William Crafoord Staffan Hellstrand Denniz Pop Nils Hellberg Anders Hillborg Dan Sundqvist Olle Ljungstr|m Janne Kask P}l Svenre Stefan Sundstr|m Peter LeMarc Album: Artist: Infinite Mass - The Infinite Patio Brainpool Just D - Plast Eva Dahlgren Kent - Kent Glenmark/Ericksson/Str|mstedt Rebecka T|rnqvist - Good Thing Nordman Album Pop/Rock Male: Album Pop/Rock Group: Eric Gadd - Floating Brainpool - Painkiller Peter LeMarc - Bok Med Blanka Sidor Just D - Plast Olle Ljungstr|m - Tack Kent - Kent Joey Tempest - A Place To Call Home Wilmer X - Hall} V{rlden Album Pop/Rock Female: Newcomer: Eva Dahlgren - Jag Vill Se Min... Infinite Mass Robyn - Robyn Is Here Kent Rebecka T|rnqvist - Good Thing Robyn Sophie Zelmani - Sophie Zelmani Sophie Zelmani Album Hard Rock: Video: At The Gates - Slaughter Of The Soul Just D - Hubba Bubba Fireside - Do Not Tailgate Popsicle - Not Forever Meshuggah - Destroy, Erase, Improve Stakka Bo - Great Blondino Yngwie Malmsteen - Magnus Opus Whale - Pay For Me The Scandinavian Indie Selected News - also available on the WWW at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/scan.html //Erik ----------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 11:28:49 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Posting Gig Info to the List On Sun, 14 Jan 1996, d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) wrote: > Umm, sorry. Well i knew about it two weeks in advance, but i forgot to post > it up. I'll write "SCAN-INDIE" on my forehead with big black letters, and > walk around with that so i won't do it again. ;) Ha ha, well, let this be a lesson to you. :-) Jokes aside, I do think it's a great way of learning about gigs, hearing it on the mailing list, I mean. Most of the time, the gig lists in papers, magazines etc. don't even come close covering the gigs that I would love to go to, and most of the time I miss them because of it. I say, lets use the jungle drum when we've got it. //Erik ----------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 12:30:00 +0100 From: Erik S|derstr|m Subject: New List: Slowdive & Mojave 3 Mailing List AVALYN The Slowdive & Mojave 3 mailing list After noticing that there were a lot of people looking for a Slowdive mailing list, I've been thinking of starting one for a while, and well, here it is, including Mojave 3, for obvious reasons. :-) The Slowdive & Mojave 3 mailing list was made to cater for the discussions about the (no longer active) Creation band Slowdive and the (active) 4AD band Mojave 3 from the UK, as well as being a distribution list for the Internet Slowdive and Mojave 3 Discographies. To subscribe to the Live version of the list, e-mail: avalyn-request@lysator.liu.se, with the subject "Subscribe". Digests will be made, not in a daily manner, but rather when the size of collected messages from the live list reach about 40-45k. Please note that the digests will not include the Discographies, due to the large size of them. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, e-mail: avalyn-request@lysator.liu.se, with the subject "Subscribe Digest". Hope to see you on the list! //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) --------------------------- End of SI Digest #3.05 ********************** * To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Digest version of the list, send your request to: scan-indie-d-request@lysator.liu.se * To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Live version of the list, send your request to: scan-indie-request@lysator.liu.se * All messages to the Scandinavian Indie mailing list should be sent to: scan-indie@lysator.liu.se * The maintainer of both mailing lists is: chief@lysator.liu.se, and can also be reached at: owner-scan-indie@lysator.liu.se * The digests can also be found in ASCII format at ftp.lysator.liu.se /pub/texts/uxu/SID and ftp.uwp.edu /pub/music/lists/scan-indie as well as in HTML format at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/sid.html